Two weeks ago I podded a Mackinaw pilot. I shouldn't have. But the mood to do so struck me. So I did. Big mistake. Dropped from -2.7 security status straight to -4.54.
So I've been ratting. But I can barely stand to log in to do it. In that intervening time, I've climbed back up to -3.77. I even took a moment to train Fast Talk III. But it's still such a slow slog. (Didn't CCP mention at Fanfest the possibility of buying our sec status back with
So, for those ganked, thinking we don't get punished. Remember security status loss. It's a damned bitch to restore.
And yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah. Yes, I know some folks are perfectly happy and capable of ganking in highsec with a -10.0 security status. Yes, my known alt is working on getting into an Orca (17 days left.) And a new alt is working on getting into a covops ship (12 days remaining.) At that point, I'll be less worried about security status, but I doubt I'll ever give it up entirely. I still enjoy simple easy access to highsec.
Yeah, we like ganking your mining ships. The endorphin rush of you losing your mining barge is just enough incentive to make up for the excruciating pain of sec status loss.
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What have I been doing? Playing the new super secret alt. Since I don't want this new alt showing up on the API logs of Poetic or Scottish, s/he has to make their own way in the world. Not sure I'll do any corp infiltration with the alt, but I want the option open for the time being.
Of course, I should not even be mentioning the existence of the super-secret alt. If Poetic or Scottish ever decide to join a new corp, the personnel dude(ette) is going to ask me "So who's your second alt? We know you have one. You blogged about it. Dumbass!"
Ganking is punishment free. You just do it wrong, ganking as a pilot who wants sec status. You shall have a dedicated ganker alt, or with the buddy system created a 51 days free account with throwaway pilots.
ReplyDeleteI don't really like hiding behind alts. It's kinda lame. (And yes, I know I made mention of super-secret alt above, but it has yet to do anything other than newbie missions and stuff.)
DeleteGevlon Goblin: "But you are playing the game WRONG, I know how the sandbox is SUPPOSED to work"
DeleteSo in short you are saying; hey I dont run my gank ops through an orca and I occasionally like to pod random people. Its like you just shot yourself in the foot while robbing someone and ask for sympathy while recovering.
ReplyDeleteAs an indy player I ask only for one thing; make it more expensive to obtain and equip the gank ship. Its not about having this option in the game at all or not, its about balancing it.
Otherwise, thanks for the behind-the-scene type of perspective. Had no idea how tedious it was to grind security standing
What gankers are afraid of is that, if the game were actually properly balanced, they wouldn't actually want to do what they do anymore. In other words, they're afraid of having to make difficult choices, and they think that CCP should protect them eternally from having to make those choices. And yet, gankers have no problem with this game imbalance leaving industrialists with the difficult choice of undocking that Hulk or not. They're all for tough choices, as long as they aren't the ones having to make them. That about sums up the simplistic anti-carebear mentality.
DeleteMaybe if that sort of sec status loss was incurred upon merely blowing up a ship in high sec you'd have a point. Nobody made you pod the guy. One would imagine that you wouldn't be able to get away with blowing up more than a couple ships in highsec without the authorities noticing a pattern and hunting your ass. The game should conform to reality, right?
ReplyDeleteReality? Really?
DeleteYes, EVE is Real, Stan. It's REAL. ;-)
DeleteThen again, if the game "conformed to reality", CONCORD, aka The Cops would arrive long after the crime was done and over with, conduct a minor, brief investigation (after all, unless the person was podded, it's merely misdemeanor "destruction of personal property", right?), take a report, and leave a business card with the officer's name and _voicemail_ number "in case you think of anything else helpful," and be on their merry for a long code-7 at the local Nurtura Donut Warehouse.
Maybe they'll get lucky and a CONCORD ship will warp into a belt right as someone aggresses the poor hapless, and completely defenseless and oblivious Citizen (err miner!) and "catch their man". More likely than not...they won't.
Misdemeanor Destruction of Personal Property.
DeleteHeh.
That would make for a good troll on the EVE-O forums.
http://carebearswithclaws.blogspot.com/2012/05/eve-should-conform-to-real-life.html
Delete^^ or a blog poast. ;-)
But really -- think about it a sec. It's TRUE. All a ship is is property. Even podding, we're "Capsuleer Demigods" god-damnit. Podding is highly inconvenient (most times), but nothing more! You can't KILL us except by some contrived bullshit involving a Blood Raider outcast, a rogue L4 (Q20 of course) mission agent who spent half her adult life coked up on Mindflood, the Sisters of EVE (dah-dun-DUNNHHH!!!) and some really fucking terribad writing, all in a book called The Burning Life (which should've just been a Burned Book).
So yeah. :Sense of Perspective: ftw, or some such. :-D
You're the one who wrote a post explaining that throwaway ships should be able to gank mining vessels worth hundreds of millions because terrorists in the real world blow expensive stuff up with only several thousand dollars worth of explosive material. I'm not the one who introduced the concept of reality to ganking. You are. I'm just running with it.
DeleteBut you're running incorrectly. :)
DeleteI personally think they should make it so that if you gank a ship with no war dec in place, you take a sec stat hit and you get dinged replacement of said ship and fittings. Unregulated PVP is only fun for the gankers, CCP encourages bully-like behavior with the current system. If you have to war dec to attack, you get no sec stat reduction, all the loot AND Concord doesn't pop your ass, you just have to decide if the cost of the war dec is really worth the loot and if being a dick is REALLY that important to you. But god forbid we do something that makes sense and is fair to both parties involved.
ReplyDeleteTo paraphrase CCP Soundwave: "When has fairness ever been design philosophy in EvE?"
Deletetotal waste of time, the price of hulks is coming down so no profit is being made by those planning to make big bucks, and most Corps and alliances can make their own hulks from the ore that they mine prior to being ganked. this is a pointless task that only makes the weak gankers look more pathetic instead of going against big ships with better fits than mining lasers.
ReplyDeleteIf miners ever really wanted to revolt against ccp they would boycott eve. In order for CCP to make up the loss they would have use the micro transaction system and pirate will have to pay real money for their ships.
ReplyDeleteIt's not punishment if you do it to yourself. There are many people who actually like to mission and do it regularly. You had the choice to gank someone and loose the sec status. No one made you do it.
ReplyDeleteHeh ... gankers are cowards if full manifestation . Like terrorist who are bullies of their own people. Shallow and incapable of thinking big... usually teenagers or teenagers trap in an old man's body.
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